Fit Over 40, Mom-style

Hey friends, Millie here.

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Just a quick announcement

before we get started.

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Due to Maxine's dissertation work and

my husband's military schedule, we'll be

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publishing every other week for a while.

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I know you're disappointed, but don't

worry, today's episode is a little

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extra long, so it should hold you over.

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Thanks for your

understanding, and here we go.

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Welcome to Reinventing This Shit

Show, a podcast for moms who are just

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trying to make it through the day.

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I'm Millie.

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Maxine: And I'm Maxine.

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We're friends,

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Millie: We're moms.

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We're

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Maxine: having a midlife crisis.

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Won't you join us?

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so here we go.

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Here we are.

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Millie: We're catching up, let's catch up.

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We need a little jingle.

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Catch up, catch up,

with Maxine and Millie.

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Maxine: Oh, I like it.

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Millie: No, that sucked ass.

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Okay, anyway, let's catch.

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Maxine: Let's catch up.

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Okay, sorry.

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I'm not in the same mood I was last

time, but I am feeling a little silly.

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So what's

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Millie: right?

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The holidays are over, the kids are

still fucking home, and, um, you know,

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you're just kind of putting your head

down and powering through, right?

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Figuring out all, yeah, you're face

down in that wine, um, figuring out

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all the things that you're gonna do

now that the start of the year is

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among us, and Um, so that's, that's

where my head's at, is just like, Here

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we go, new year, what are we doing?

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Yeah,

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Maxine: a huge gap.

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Yeah, yeah.

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The holiday gap, they are all

crunched together and then it's like,

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Millie: You fall off a cliff,

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Maxine: yeah, it's like, although what

I'm gearing up for is husband to be

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Millie: I know, which is fucking nuts.

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That's fab.

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We still have, what, like six weeks ish?

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Maxine: Yeah, something like that.

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So he's gone for two and a half

weeks to climb Mount Kilimanjaro.

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Millie: What a dick, I

forgot he was doing that.

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Maxine: my God, you should

see our Amazon cart.

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Well, it's not even in the cart.

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He just ding, ding, ding, ding.

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I wake up in the morning, there's

like 20, your Amazon package is

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Millie: Uh huh, uh huh.

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Yeah.

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Maxine: um.

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Yeah, so he'll be gone for two and

a half weeks for that, and then

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he's home for a couple weeks, and

then he's gone for three months.

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So,

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Millie: It's crazy.

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Maxine: yeah, I mean

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Millie: part of the gig, but it's

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Maxine: spouses go, I have it easy, but

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I haven't, I haven't solo parented

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Millie: So does it ever get any easier?

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I mean, you've been, you've

been doing this gig for damn

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near two decades now, but does

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Maxine: yeah, because when he

first did it, I had Toddlers and

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infants and I mean, he, he was gone.

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Um, I remember one night, the oldest,

my oldest daughter was really sick

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and I had a newborn in the house.

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She's asleep and, um, no husband

had the nearest hospitals 45 minutes

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away and knew I had to take her.

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It's like, what am I going to

do with, I got to wake up the.

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preemie, my preemie baby, like this

tiny little, like she's finally asleep.

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And oh my God.

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So I went next door and I knocked on

the next door neighbor's front door.

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He happened to be the

pediatrician on base.

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I was like,

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Millie: that's

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Maxine: can you just come sit in my

living room in case my baby wakes up?

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I got to go to the hospital.

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So yeah, I went to take older

daughter 45 minutes away.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That guy was an angel.

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Um, but I mean, that's just,

you know, the military life.

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Yeah.

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You kind of just take care of each

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Millie: I feel like that's such

a flippant thing to say though.

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Oh, that's part of the deal.

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Well, it's still fucking impossible

for the people who are living in it.

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It's so hard.

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You know, I don't want to do this right

now, but I was thinking actually when

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we first started, whenever that was

the other day, when we were talking

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about him leaving, I want you to like.

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Tabulate all the time he's been gone.

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I'm curious how many years

it's going to end up being.

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You know what I

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Maxine: many years it's going to

end up being, you know what I mean?

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friend who her husband

was gone like a month.

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He'd go up to the ice fields.

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I don't know what they did up there, but

they did stuff up in this big ice field.

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So he'd be gone for like a month

and then he'd come home for a month

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and then he'd be gone for a month.

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I mean, so people had it

a lot worse than I did.

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Um, but yeah, fucking sucked.

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It was, and that's why he got out because

he, he used to pack a bag to come home.

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Millie: Geez.

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Maxine: So he would go to like, North

Dakota and he'd come home for the weekend

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and leave most of his stuff at the base in

North Dakota and then come home and spend

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the weekend with us and then fly back.

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So that's how he missed the

birth of second child too.

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He was on a plane from Hawaii.

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Poor guy.

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Right?

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Yeah, but

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Millie: guy.

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It's just a lot, though.

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Maxine: it is a lot.

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And mine is.

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It's nothing compared to people.

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People's spouses go for a year.

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They go for

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Millie: Like, for their entire marriage.

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Like, that's how it is.

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I just You know, kudos, because that is

such a huge sacrifice in a relationship.

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Maxine: My sister in

law has been through it.

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Millie: Oh yeah, because they're

in Spain or something, or did I

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Maxine: in Italy now

and he's on shore duty.

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So that's great.

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that was their reward for all of these

years of him being on a submarine.

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But she got hit by a car in front of

her two kids while he was deployed.

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Had to like hospital, like the

whole thing with two small children.

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they've had broken bones.

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They've had all sorts of,

Oh, here's a great story.

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Let's.

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Am I taking up too much time?

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Well, whatever.

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This is a great story.

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Millie: So, um,

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Maxine: So, right before COVID happened,

my brother in law deployed on a submarine.

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Okay, so they're not even like somewhere

where they can get the internet.

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I mean, sometimes they can, but

they go dark a lot, like completely

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dark, no communication in or out.

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So he came

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Millie: the Buccaneers, so that was like

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Maxine: Brady had moved to the Buccaneers,

so that was like a huge thing because,

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you know, he's a big football guy.

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the house that his family was living

in when he left was no longer their

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house because they found black mold in

it and the military had to move them.

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Millie: cancer.

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Oh

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Maxine: And I had cancer.

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Millie: went underwater for life.

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Maxine: Yeah.

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He went underwater for like a few

weeks and he came back up and he was

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like, am I on a different planet?

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Like what the hell?

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Millie: Oh my

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Maxine: Yeah.

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So, I mean, that, it's a,

it's a crazy life for them.

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This is, this is nothing.

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Husband's going to be in an office,

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it's a, it's a long drive, but we

could drive up there, you know, if we

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wanted to be in an office, he's safe.

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Talk on the phone, you know,

FaceTime, all that stuff.

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So it used to be a lot harder,

especially when I was, in Italy and had

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a newborn and he was supposed to deploy.

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thankfully his boss put the kibosh

on it and he said, Nope, he's got

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a three month old at home and no

family, you know, we were over there,

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you know, so I'm basically alone.

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and he was going to go to Afghanistan.

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So he was pissed though.

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He was so

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Millie: go.

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Maxine: He didn't.

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It's not that he wanted to go.

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It's that it was his duty to go.

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His name came up.

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It was his time.

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Someone else had to go instead of him.

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He did not have a deployment

then on his record.

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And then it happened again.

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Um, because something was going on,

there was staff changing over and

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when he was supposed to go, he was

going to be the only one left in the

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office that had certain knowledge

for something that was happening.

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So the boss needed him.

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He said, you can't, you can't go.

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You have to stay.

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You're the only one that knows XYZ.

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So again,

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Millie: So

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Maxine: you know, another member

of the office had to go in his

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place, so he was less than thrilled.

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Millie: don't know.

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It's just, I can't even like relate

to it, you know, other than just

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acknowledge the fact that it's a huge

sacrifice for everyone that's involved.

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Maxine: Yeah.

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is.

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It is.

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And I will never.

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Say that mine is even close to as bad as

a lot of people's, but it definitely, you

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know, there were times when it was hard.

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I won't go into details about taking

my daughter to the hospital, um, but

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it was super fucking traumatic and he

wasn't there and it was really hard.

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Millie: think that's the part for

me that would be so hard is those

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tough times and those really great

times that they miss, you know,

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Maxine: Yeah.

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Millie: I think that would

be tremendously difficult.

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But you know, you, you do this

huge thing for your country and

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that's part of the deal, but

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Maxine: And let's be honest, you get a

lot back the military really, at least,

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for us, cause my husband's an officer.

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So there is a level of privilege there,

I guess, in the way, in the amount he's

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paid, how he's treated, all of that stuff.

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A lot of, you know, the enlisted guys

start out on a much lower salary.

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Um, they're just, they're

not treated as well.

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They don't have as much say.

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A lot of times in what they're doing.

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So, you know, it's extra hard for them.

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Anyway, well I guess that's our catch up.

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Millie: Yeah.

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I

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Maxine: If you're in

the military, thank you.

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Millie: Yeah.

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Geez.

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Maxine: Yeah.

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Millie: Yeah.

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Okay.

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Maxine: yeah, we were supposed to talk

about this thing that we're going to do.

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Well, it ties into what we wanted to

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Millie: Well, we can, it's nothing really.

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I just wanted to say that I was excited

about it, that we're doing this.

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It's like a yoga morning, but, it's on

a local farm, which I think is so cool

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because it ties to the whole, cause

that farm does the same thing as one

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of the other local farms where they.

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you come and you pick up a weekly box of

produce, and when we do this yoga thing,

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they're actually gonna give us boxes

for free, which I'm so excited about.

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and then we're doing some fuckin

sound bath, which, don't tell me,

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because I'm sure you're fuckin

Mother Earth shit, you've done this

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Maxine: before.

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No, I have,

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Millie: I am, but not with the weird, you

know, in touch with the universe shit.

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You do that

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Maxine: the Jewish museum.

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Millie: I'm so excited, because I

don't know what the fuck it is, other

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than, you know, Noise for my ears.

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Maxine: will, we'll have

to dig into it next time.

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Because

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Millie: I'm excited.

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Yeah, I don't want Cause I was

gonna look it up and I was like,

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nah, I'm not gonna look it up.

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Maxine: I mean, I don't think

it's going to be earth shattering.

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It's called a sound bath.

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I think you're going to,

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Millie: And I'm

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Maxine: probably just about

what you're thinking it is.

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Millie: along with yoga and all that.

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But I'm excited to see how it goes.

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And that we're gonna be outside.

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I fucking love yoga outside.

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I

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Maxine: Yeah.

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Millie: do.

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Maxine: And my husband is taking,

younger daughter to her dance

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convention that weekend so that

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Millie: Hey, that's a win.

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All the way around, actually.

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Maxine: know.

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At least this time he doesn't

have to do her makeup.

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Millie: Oh god.

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Maxine: No, it's gonna be

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Millie: Yeah, anyway, so yeah, listener,

we'll keep you posted on the farm yoga,

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Maxine: Yes, we're going to

come back, um, transformed,

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Millie: I think so.

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Maxine: right?

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Yeah.

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Millie: And bathed in

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Maxine: sound.

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Bathed in sound.

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Millie: but you're right.

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So it does kind of go along with what we

want to talk about today, which is since

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it's the new year and we're, some of us

are making resolutions and some of us are

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adding positive things into our lives.

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Um, we want to talk about how it's

even fucking possible to be fit after

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40 and be in shape and be eating all

the things that we're supposed to be.

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Eating for our ever changing bodies,

with shit hanging down now, and

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falling off of our skulls, and

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Maxine: what is falling off of your skull?

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My

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Millie: my face!

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What?

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Why do I have jowls now?

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Like, what's happening?

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Which I don't think exercise and diet is

going to do much for that, but anyway,

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Maxine: Yeah, I think jowls are just,

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Millie: They're here to

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Maxine: they're, do you see all those

things on Instagram for like face

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Millie: I know,

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Maxine: It can't work,

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Millie: Well, and I've been doing

some of the lymphatic drainage and

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shit and like massaging my face.

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I'm going to get one of those, one of

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Maxine: of those,

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Millie: Yeah, gua sha

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or gua, gua cha,

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Maxine: it wound up in the cupboard.

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Millie: I have some things, but

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Maxine: But I don't know what I'm,

what am I supposed to do with it?

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Like I,

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Millie: I don't

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Maxine: it came from China and

it had like four words written

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on it and a weird drawing and I

was like, what am I supposed to

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do with this

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Millie: like, okay, I got it.

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Yeah,

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Maxine: Yeah, sure.

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Scrape, scrape my

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Millie: I know.

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I don't know, but maybe if I start

scraping my face a little bit, it will

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stay upright instead of sliding down.

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Maxine: don't think So,

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Well, I hope so.

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Millie: don't know.

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But anyway.

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Maxine: anyway.

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Ugh.

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Millie: We are going to

be fit after 40, right?

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Maxine: days.

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Millie: why I started that, well,

you said it today too, because that,

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sadly, that's exactly where I went.

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Oh, fit after, that's what

it is, get fit after 40.

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It sounds

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Maxine: after 40.

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Sounds

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Millie: a PBS workout thing,

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Maxine: it does.

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Millie: Some lady like

doing chair yoga, right?

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I feel

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Maxine: God.

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Or Suzanne

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Somers.

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Rest in peace.

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Or, um,

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Millie: Jane Fonda with her leg warmers.

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Maxine: Who, um, Susan Powder?

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Millie: Oh, is that with the spiky hair?

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Ooh, yeah, God, where's she

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Maxine: been?

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I don't know.

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Millie: Crazy lady.

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Okay.

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So how are we feeling about

this whole aging and fit thing?

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Are the, do they go together?

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No?

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Maxine: I'm gonna go ahead and

give aging a big fat thumbs

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down.

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Um, don't recommend that.

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Millie: Well, and you said something

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percent how I feel and probably

our listener feels this way too.

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Um, you look in the mirror and

you don't know who the fuck that

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Maxine: who the

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Millie: Isn't that trippy

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as

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Maxine: that trippy?

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I know.

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I know.

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Millie: Who the fuck

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Maxine: Cause like, your words

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Millie: I know, cause like your

words and brain, all of that is

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happening kind of, for the most

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Maxine: mostly.

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But, but, today, I

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Millie: but, but today, I mean,

I'm looking at my face and

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I'm like, what, what is that?

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What's

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happening?

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Maxine: and I will tell you for me it

started during chemo because I literally

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would look in the mirror and be like I

don't know this person who's like yellow

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and has no eyebrows and you know It's

I'm not gonna get into all of that.

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But and I've slowly come back from that a

little bit I mean the eyebrows struggle is

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real Although I think they're coming back

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Millie: Yes.

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Yes.

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Maxine: But the pill that I have to take

to keep my estrogen from to keep from

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having any estrogen I It it's like I

wake up every six months and realize oh,

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that's why I feel 80 I wake up every day.

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My hands hurt.

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My feet hurt.

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All my joints hurt.

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I feel old I feel like I can't

exercise everything hurts and

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then every like six months I go.

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Oh, it's that fucking pill.

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Millie: Is that what it is?

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Well then what's my reason?

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What then?

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Because I'm not taking that pill.

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So what am I, yeah, that is, yeah,

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I do, but that's, and I, I do

notice and I fucking hate it.

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I do notice that the more sugar

and alcohol I consume, the harder

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it is to get up in the morning.

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Like the stiffer I am a lot of the time.

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And when I'm not boozing and, you know,

eating 12 dozen Christmas cookies, I'm

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not as, it doesn't bother me as much.

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Yeah, seriously, like there

actually is, unfortunately.

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A link to that whole inflammation sugar

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Maxine: mean, I think that's

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Millie: Yeah, I mean, I think that's

the stiffness and you know, the aging

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a little bit and like you said, the

arthritis, which we all have now.

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Maxine: now.

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When the fuck did that

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happen?

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I don't,

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know.

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I was 25, like, a week ago.

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Millie: don't know.

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Well, and just with the whole like,

okay, being in shape, being healthy,

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it is so much harder now 10 years ago,

even five years ago, quite honestly.

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you know, the exercise, the things that

we could do in our thirties, you know,

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power walking and jogging and spin class

and don't really have the same effect

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now that they used to, at least in my

experience now, listener, maybe you're

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not there, but I have spent last January.

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I started working with a personal trainer.

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to learn how to use gym equipment

because I've never fucking used it and

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um, I've always been kind of a runner.

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When I say runner, I mean barely jogging.

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So like.

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What the fuck?

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Maxine: And when I say

runner, I mean barely

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Millie: between two and

a half, three miles tops.

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Okay.

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I'm not like an actual runner, but um,

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Maxine: miles tops.

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Okay, I'm not like an actual runner.

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But, um, It was like, it said like, I run.

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I run like a turtle

through molasses, but I

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Millie: that is 1, 000 percent how

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Maxine: But see, you're running.

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It's still

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Millie: Yeah, but anyway, my point is

I've never had issues With weight, if

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I was drinking or whatever a little

too much, having too much ice cream,

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just do some more running and it

would, you know, that doesn't work now.

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So, okay, so started last January and

you and I were just talking about this.

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I have lost 15 pounds in one year.

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Took me a fucking year to lose 15 pounds.

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Maxine: pounds.

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What?

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But are you losing inches?

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Are you getting stronger?

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Millie: I

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don't

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Maxine: do you feel like you're gaining

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Millie: Yes, Definitely.

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Maxine: Okay, because muscle

weighs more than fat and blah blah

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Millie: Yeah, but I did some hardcore

weight stuff for a while and I found that

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I, it didn't make my body feel very good.

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Like, um, you know, because, and

we're going to talk about this a

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little bit, but like, Influencers and

doctors and people will say to us,

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in our 40s now, we need to be lifting

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weights.

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Everybody needs to be doing that.

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It's super important for women,

perimenopause, menopause, postmenopause,

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like, you need to be lifting weights.

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Well, so I was really subscribing

to that and, you know, lifting

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weights three, four times a week.

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Um, I don't, I didn't lose

weight, which I know muscle

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weighs more than fat, whatever,

but also I didn't feel very good.

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It was, it was kind of uncomfortable.

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Like, I, so I'm still doing some

of the strength training, but it's

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more resistance training than it

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Maxine: it is,

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I'm not

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Millie: And I'm not, I'm not dead lifting

and I'm not, you know, I don't know,

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lifting shit over my head and I'm not

using a lot of like weights on bars.

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I'm using a lot of like bands and stuff

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Maxine: So you're using like

your body weight, the like,

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like, do you do, I love TRX.

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Millie: I see.

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I've never done that.

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Maxine: I love it.

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I worked with a woman for a while

cause we all know I have this weird

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back issue, um, that and I did TRX

so there's, it was, there's zero

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impact cause it's all using the bands

and stuff and your own body weight.

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I love

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Millie: Huh, I've never done

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Maxine: I love it.

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The problem at my gym is there's

only one tiny little area where

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you can do what you want to do.

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Um, everything else is machines and

every time I fucking go there's a class.

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So I'm like, I can't

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Millie: But can you do it at home?

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In the studio?

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Maxine: I bought a TRX setup,

which I would buy and then

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use for a week and never touch

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Millie: And that's my problem.

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I suck at working out at home.

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I have to like You know, the trainer

that I'm working with now, who is

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fucking awesome, but I have to physically

go to her or I'm not, you know, she

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can't hear work on this at home.

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I won't do it.

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I need to be,

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I don't know.

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Maxine: I don't know.

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I just lost

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Millie: ha

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Maxine: thought while you were talking.

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I lost my train of thought.

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How does that

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Millie: Well, I just was saying

that if she, the trainer that I'm

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working with right now, if she gives

me some exercises to do at home,

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I'm never going to fucking do them.

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I have to be, I like classes, I do

take a walk every single day and that's

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different

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than from a year ago.

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So if I'm not running, I'm

walking and I'm, I'm walking at

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least 45 to 50 minutes probably.

516

so I feel like I'm awesome for walking and

running as much as I do, but apparently

517

that doesn't fucking matter at our age.

518

Maxine: I think it matters

for your mental health.

519

Cause you always tell me, like, if I'm

in a funk, make sure you're getting

520

Millie: Well, and the sunlight

is supes, supes important.

521

I'm getting that D.

522

Maxine: D.

523

But, um, Which D exactly

are you talking about?

524

Um, but

525

Millie: but, it's still

good for you, fuck, it's

526

Maxine: so, it's so good for you, but,

527

Millie: but not for weight loss

apparently, but I don't know, there's

528

lots of schools of thought because

I, I do read that some folks say

529

that no, it still is really good

530

Maxine: well, and you see like

all over Instagram, like I get

531

advertisements every day for like

indoor walking, um, or I don't know,

532

I get like somatic workouts too.

533

You can't lose weight if

you're holding emotions in

534

Millie: know.

535

I tried that for like four days.

536

Have you tried that yet?

537

Oh, you asked me about it.

538

I mean, there's so many, right?

539

Like how many things have you tried?

540

I know.

541

Maxine: It's so overwhelming.

542

Millie: think that the bottom line there,

because I'm the expert, because I've

543

tried every bucket, I think you really

just need to do something that you like.

544

Like that's the biggest thing.

545

Maxine: and that is why, that's one

reason why I joined my adult Tappity Tap

546

Millie: I know.

547

That's

548

Maxine: Um, Yeah, the first day

I went, I almost cried halfway

549

through because I was like, my

brain doesn't work like it used to.

550

I was a decent tapper.

551

I was never a great tapper, but I, I

did take private tap lessons briefly.

552

And I, the woman who taught it

said, you're a natural tapper.

553

You're good at this.

554

And I was like, oh, that's great.

555

Well.

556

Cool.

557

Not anymore.

558

Like, she's calling out these steps.

559

I'm like looking around.

560

I'm

561

Millie: Stop going so fast!

562

Maxine: it.

563

Millie: Slow

564

Maxine: Now part of it was because

I was wearing shoes that I, that

565

were from like five years ago.

566

My feet aren't, my feet

have grown since then.

567

And so my heels were like bleeding.

568

So that might've been part of the

reason that I was crying in tap class.

569

But mostly it was just the frustration

of like, my body won't do this anymore.

570

It's what the fuck happened.

571

Millie: No, but I think, I think

that that's the most important

572

thing is to just keep moving.

573

Maxine: keep moving.

574

Millie: when you don't, it doesn't,

I really don't think it matters

575

what it is, quite honestly.

576

Like, I know we need to strength train

and you can figure out some sort of way

577

to do that that maybe isn't so aggressive

as, Some of the, ugh, F 45, fuck.

578

I'll call them out because the

listener probably doesn't care.

579

But, um,

580

Maxine: didn't even know what that

581

Millie: I did not love it.

582

It's,

583

Maxine: F 45.

584

Millie: there's, it's like a chain.

585

It's all over the country.

586

Um,

587

Maxine: Well,

588

Millie: just felt very aggressive.

589

Maxine: Yeah.

590

There's the one, there's a gym that I

drive by all the time that's, I don't

591

even remember the name of it, but it's

something like, it might as well be like,

592

Millie: like, Oh, is it like Megalodon?

593

One of

594

Maxine: well, something like that.

595

Only it's even worse.

596

It's almost like vicious kickboxing.

597

Like, come in and let

us beat your brains out.

598

I mean, it really.

599

Viper or Venom.

600

I think it might be Venom.

601

I'm like, I am not going in there.

602

Nope.

603

Okay, anyway.

604

Millie: so, um, yeah, it's, it's,

it's aggressive and I'm sure it works

605

for people, like a lot of people.

606

And if you're like 30 and your

joints can handle it, it's, it's

607

Maxine: joints can handle it,

608

Millie: So it's kind of like that.

609

It's circuit training,

but it's, it's like that.

610

It's a lot of heavy work, heavy

lifting or like crazy cardio where

611

you're doing like burpees for

five minutes or something insane.

612

Like, I just.

613

Maxine: super fun.

614

Millie: It's too aggressive for me.

615

Maxine: I liked orange theory.

616

Millie: heard good things.

617

Tell me about

618

Maxine: it's much less aggressive.

619

I was doing it for a while and

then my back started acting up

620

and I just couldn't, or maybe it

was, yeah, that's what happened.

621

So I was doing it for a while.

622

COVID happened and I was doing it at home.

623

They released all these videos

on YouTube so I could work out

624

at home, which was awesome.

625

Awesome.

626

And then we decided to sell

our house and buy a new one.

627

And I was working from home in the

garage with no air conditioning.

628

Both of my children were doing school

at home and we were packing up an

629

entire house to move in the middle of

a pandemic and no one was helping me.

630

I was the only one packing.

631

Millie: That sounds fine.

632

Maxine: So I got real stressed out and,

oh, lo and behold, all of a sudden my

633

back gave out and I was on crutches.

634

Guess who couldn't do any

of the packing anymore?

635

Like I didn't do that on

purpose, but my brain did.

636

Yeah.

637

So that's when I stopped and then

I never went back because my back

638

Millie: do they do stuff at Orange Theory?

639

Like, what,

640

Maxine: Okay, so Orange Theory, um,

you wear like this heart monitor

641

and it's a specific one because it,

642

like Bluetooth connects to their system.

643

So you start out either on a

treadmill or a rower, just warming

644

up, and then, it's a circuit.

645

So you've got one group on the

treadmill, and so after warmups, the

646

treadmill group, amps it up, right?

647

So you're really, it's cardio.

648

You're working, and you're working

to your own specific level.

649

So you're watching the screen telling you,

are you in the red zone, the orange zone?

650

Millie: zone, or green

651

Maxine: Yellow zone or

green zone, I think.

652

And you want to spend most of your time

in the orange zone, which is like, you're

653

not full out, like you could still do

more, but it's still pretty difficult.

654

And so you're not competing

with anybody around you.

655

Like if you're walking and

you're in the orange zone and

656

someone else is running, like.

657

a mad person.

658

It doesn't matter.

659

You're working to your zone.

660

And then the timer goes

off or they whistle.

661

I don't know what they did.

662

They tell you to switch.

663

And then that group would go and do

like, resistance training or strength

664

training or planks or whatever

the daily workout happens to be.

665

It's similar to cross fit in that way.

666

And then.

667

When you're done there, you go to the

rowing machine and it's the same thing.

668

You're doing more cardio and

they were awesome They you know,

669

you you do to your own ability

670

Millie: I would skip

671

Maxine: I would skip the rowing machine

a lot because it hurt my back and so

672

I would just go walk on the treadmill

instead and I loved maybe it was that

673

specific orange theory, but They were just

674

Millie: Okay.

675

Maxine: I wasn't intimidated

676

Millie: Yeah.

677

Yeah, and that's my deal with gyms, too.

678

Like, I can't go to a gym gym because

it's just too, and I, I spent, like, two

679

months there with a trainer, learning how

to do stuff, and it was, I still can't go.

680

it's just too much.

681

I can't wait for machines, and I can't

really remember what I'm supposed to

682

do, and there's people waiting, and

683

Maxine: are waiting and watching.

684

Yes.

685

Can we talk about gym people for a second?

686

Millie: too much.

687

I

688

Maxine: gym we go to now, which is

a very nice gym, it's very nice.

689

It's very, it's inexpensive.

690

It's a like 24 seven.

691

You can go when you want.

692

everyone is very nice.

693

I've never, you know, felt like

anyone was judging me or being,

694

you know, difficult or whatever.

695

in this gym, like one day I went, my

husband was there at the same time.

696

There was a man there, he was

probably in his 60s, in like a

697

sweatsuit, bare feet doing like karate

698

Millie: ha

699

Maxine: by himself.

700

So That was strange.

701

Then there's like the 20

something couples that are clearly

702

like dating and this is their

703

Millie: and they met there probably, yeah.

704

and then

705

Maxine: And then there's the

woman the older woman that I see

706

she's probably in her 70s or 80s

707

Millie: 70s or

708

Maxine: She's full on wearing like

Her clothes are from Talbot's and

709

she's working out in her little Mary

Jane flats and her Talbot's outfit.

710

I'm like, what are you even doing?

711

Millie: Oh my God, I love

712

Maxine: Gym people

713

Millie: Because I know

what you're talking about.

714

The gym that I went to, all

of those people that you

715

just described were at that

716

Maxine: mean,

717

Millie: It's insane.

718

Anyway, so, okay, so

719

Maxine: it's insane anyway.

720

So okay.

721

So we've talked about the gym thing

and how we have to keep moving.

722

No matter what, it's best to

do something that we enjoy.

723

Millie: because otherwise

you're not gonna fuckin do it.

724

There's

725

Maxine: so I think, A, we

know we have to keep moving.

726

And that's pretty much it, because all

of the information is so contradictory.

727

It

728

Millie: Yeah, I mean, it, you hear

different things, you know, strength

729

train, don't strength train, although

that one's pretty consistent across

730

the board, but cardio doesn't matter.

731

Cardio does matter.

732

You know, like there's

so many different things

733

Maxine: Yep, but the one thing

I hear consistently is that you

734

cannot out exercise a bad diet,

which is really a problem for me.

735

Millie: No, that's true,

736

Maxine: As you

737

Millie: I'm eating a

cookie, but they're healthy.

738

It's fine.

739

Maxine: Sure, mm hmm.

740

Yeah, sure

741

Millie: No, but it's, it's.

742

It doesn't matter how much you exercise

if you put garbage into your temple.

743

Maxine: your temple.

744

Yes, my

745

Millie: Your body's a temple, friends.

746

it's so true, and that,

that part's easier for me.

747

Maxine: I'm a garbage pail kid.

748

Millie: The, the healthy eating thing

has, is a lot easier for me just

749

because I've been doing it for so long.

750

But I did do some tweaking this past year,

as did you, with the whole dairy thing.

751

I discovered that that was the

source of a lot of my tummy trubs.

752

Maxine: Although dairy,

cutting out the dairy has not

753

dropped the weight like it did.

754

when younger daughter was

born, we found out that she was

755

lactose intolerant, basically.

756

So like if I had any dairy

whatsoever, she was a nightmare,

757

which a nightmare preemie.

758

I mean, nobody was sleeping.

759

It was awful.

760

And they told me not only to cut

out dairy, I had to cut out soy too.

761

So all of your dairy substitutes were soy.

762

And I was living in Fairbanks, Alaska.

763

Millie: couldn't have anything.

764

Maxine: They didn't have

fake anything back then.

765

I mean, soy milk was the only non dairy

milk, so I had nothing, like nothing.

766

And the weight fell off

767

Millie: Yeah, because you

weren't having anything.

768

Maxine: I couldn't eat anything.

769

But,

770

Millie: Yeah Yeah, but think about it.

771

It hasn't been that long and

there have there's times that

772

we're not able to stick to

773

Maxine: there's no dairy and alcohol,

774

Millie: Yeah, there's

775

that That's a

776

Maxine: not really drinking, you

know, because I was breastfeeding.

777

Millie: Well that you know kudos

to you for not being a drunk

778

while you're breastfeeding.

779

That was very good.

780

But um And it's what I said

previously, which is, anything that

781

you do now, modifications that you

do now, just takes so much longer.

782

It just does.

783

It takes so much longer.

784

Because I stopped dairy, like, in May.

785

And then I really did see some shit,

like, August, September, from that.

786

Fucking took four months, you

787

Maxine: And I was doing really well on

the dairy until we went on the cruise.

788

And then we, my husband and I kept going

to that Indian place and it was so good.

789

And they had this chicken korma.

790

that said on it that it was

cashew cream, you know, whatever.

791

And nothing on that cruise was

marked gluten free, dairy free.

792

It was none, nothing was marked.

793

So I assumed it was dairy free.

794

Millie: Yeah.

795

Yeah, no.

796

Maxine: that thing had

cream in it for sure.

797

Millie: Yeah.

798

Maxine: So my best intentions,

799

Millie: No, and it's

just, it's fucking hard.

800

And plus, like, for me, because I've

been gluten free for like 12 years now,

801

but, I hate going to restaurants and

being that guy, you know, like, um,

802

do you, do you have gluten free and,

uh, do you have anything dairy free?

803

Like, that

804

Maxine: I had to do that today.

805

We went to lunch and I

806

Millie: I just won't.

807

I just won't eat, or I'll have

a salad or something like that,

808

because I just don't like doing that.

809

Or

810

Maxine: I didn't like it

811

Millie: we'll go somewhere that I know

they have tons of substitutions and

812

modifications, you know, that they do

that and so I don't have to feel like

813

such an asshole.

814

Yeah.

815

but

816

Maxine: open.

817

Millie: the healthy food thing, yeah,

you were saying, like, that's, It's,

818

it's hard and if you're not eating

good shit, yeah, you're not going

819

to see any results, especially now.

820

Well, and so, I, there's two, people that

I, and there's 85 million, but there's

821

two chicks that I follow on Instagram

that are really, focused on taking care of

822

yourself after 40, specifically with food

823

Maxine: Okay.

824

Millie: And since we're talking about

food, they, and I mean, everyone's

825

saying this, in addition to the strength

training is the protein, which is

826

something that is supes hard for me.

827

I am not good at getting protein in.

828

I could probably be vegan, vegetarian.

829

And I, and I, I would say.

830

Not always, but in the last couple of

months since I'm kind of tweaking my

831

diet again, I'm probably 65 to 70 percent

Veggie, veggies only, like vegetarian

832

Maxine: See, this is my problem.

833

I cannot get enough

vegetables into my body.

834

Millie: and that's yeah, you know why

835

Maxine: thing I think about.

836

Millie: and I know everybody

says that Oh, it's so easy.

837

Just do this.

838

No, it's not I know it's not because

I do it and I'm fortunate enough to be

839

at home and have time to like cook I

840

Maxine: cook of the family.

841

Millie: cook all the

842

Maxine: Yeah, I'm not the cook.

843

So I have zero control over what is being

844

Millie: but I don't believe that it's

as easy as everyone makes it out to be,

845

because I'm doing it every single day.

846

And, yeah, I'm getting easily six to ten

servings of, eh, seven to ten servings of

847

fruits and vegetables every single day.

848

But it's because I'm fucking

cooking all day long.

849

Or I'm prepping things, or I'm

doing stuff for the next day.

850

Like, it's not easy.

851

No wonder nobody can get

fruits and vegetables in.

852

It's a pain in the ass.

853

Yeah, it

854

Maxine: And I mean, I'll eat them

raw, so that's another thing.

855

Millie: but how often really you're

gonna eat fucking raw celery carrots

856

and tomatoes and Old every single day.

857

That's so boring like you

858

Maxine: Yeah, it

859

Millie: it is and you can't do that every

860

Maxine: that every day.

861

At

862

Millie: At least I can't

like I need variety.

863

I'm not somebody that

can eat the same stuff

864

every day

865

Maxine: can eat the

866

Millie: Yeah, because he's a fucking

867

Maxine: It's a fucking rainbow.

868

Millie: Anyway, so, okay, so they're,

the big things that they talk about

869

is the protein, the fiber, because our

tummies need that fiber, probiotics,

870

that's the big, big one for the gals over

40 because you, you need your gut biome

871

Maxine: I got a lot of

872

Millie: this shit.

873

Yeah.

874

Maxine: That makes me think

also about the dairy thing.

875

So the reason that dairy bothers my

stomach in particular, um, according to

876

a doctor I saw years ago, is that it.

877

Basically kills off, um, parts,

these parts of your stomach

878

that help with digestion.

879

So, you know, take it for what it's worth.

880

But so that makes a lot of sense

with the probiotics too, to help

881

Millie: Yeah, and it's, and

like the fermented food, which

882

I don't think anybody has done

except in the last few years.

883

I'm sure other people were before,

but the sauerkraut, the kombucha,

884

the anything pickled, you know, we do

like pickled carrots and onions and

885

Maxine: Have you had pickled asparagus?

886

Millie: I do

887

Maxine: hmm.

888

Real good.

889

Millie: My husband does

some pickling here and there

890

Maxine: We need to just move our two

families in together and then we can like

891

all like together we make a functional

892

Millie: have really good resources, yeah.

893

I'm not opposed to it as long as

I don't have to see your husband

894

that much and he's gone a lot.

895

So that's, that's actually

a really good idea.

896

Okay.

897

Maxine: it's like sister wives except

for without the Oh my god, that's

898

Millie: God, those blessed sisters.

899

Boy, they're really going

through some shit, aren't they?

900

They have fallen the fuck apart.

901

Maxine: fuck apart.

902

What?

903

That didn't work?

904

Millie: what?

905

That didn't work?

906

Oh my God.

907

Okay.

908

So anyway, so fermented food, right?

909

And, and both of these gals, one of which

Health with Holland is what she's called.

910

Her name is Becca Holland.

911

She's fucking amazing.

912

Maxine: to follow

913

Millie: And then, um, fasting MD.

914

She's Dr.

915

Amy, but

916

she's

917

Maxine: whole fasting

918

Millie: well, so yeah, actually

I did want to talk about that.

919

That's something that she talks about,

but But, but there's other stuff, Becca

920

talks a little bit about fasting, but

her big thing is getting your hormones

921

straight because if you can get your

hormones the way they need to be, your

922

cortisol levels the way they need to

be, your anxiety the way, and there

923

are foods that you need to be eating to

make all of that work the way that it's

924

supposed

925

Maxine: I'm into it.

926

Now does that work when you're

artificially suppressing hormones?

927

Millie: I, she is somebody that you

could message and she would give you an

928

Maxine: Really?

929

Okay.

930

really cool.

931

Okay.

932

What was her name again for our listener?

933

Millie: health with Holland.

934

Maxine: with Holland.

935

Okay.

936

Okay.

937

Now let's talk about the fasting because

I have a friend who went through the same

938

cancer journey that I do, that I did.

939

So she's in very much the same boat.

940

She's been fasting for quite a while now,

a couple of years, and she swears by it.

941

She loves it.

942

It's helped her keep the weight off.

943

Millie: off.

944

I

945

Maxine: With my, sugar levels, and I think

I'm like, I don't know, I think I need to

946

have one of those things that tests your

blood glucose after you eat, um, I worry

947

about the fasting because I tend to, my

blood sugar will drop really drastically,

948

and then I'll get shaky, and I'll get

all weird, so I worry about the fasting

949

for myself, but I want to hear what Dr.

950

Amy

951

Millie: Well, you want to hear what Dr.

952

Maxine says, actually, but, uh,

953

Maxine: is going to be a doctor

954

Millie: yeah, not of medicine, friends.

955

So anyway,

956

Maxine: Still a doctor.

957

Millie: so I am in the

exact same boat as you.

958

I have.

959

I've, I've been diagnosed with

hyper, hyperglycemia previously.

960

I have those blood sugar issues.

961

If I don't eat, and my husband likes

to joke about this a lot, if I don't

962

eat immediately when I'm hungry, it's

bad, shakes, headache, like crazy.

963

Maxine: crazy.

964

Like you're gonna

965

Millie: So I.

966

Now, I do try to do the

12 hours at night thing.

967

Um, sometimes it's 11,

most of the time it's 11.

968

where I don't eat for 11 hours,

11 hours or 12 hours overnight.

969

During the day, absolutely

fucking not, I cannot do it.

970

Can't do it.

971

And in the morning A lot of times

I'll do salt water when I wake up so

972

Maxine: okay.

973

I've never heard of that.

974

Millie: what

975

Maxine: No.

976

Tell me about saltwater.

977

Millie: okay, so wait, no

978

Maxine: Okay.

979

Sorry.

980

We're

981

Millie: We're talking

we're fasting right now.

982

Then we'll talk about salt

983

Maxine: Okay.

984

It's hard to be my friend guys.

985

I'm all over the fucking place.

986

. Have I told you about bilateral music?

987

I discovered that last night.

988

We talked about that

989

Millie: Stop I have to pee and my stomach

990

Maxine: I'm sorry.

991

. So

992

Millie: Um, so anyway, so fasting,

not for me, but my oldest son

993

is actually doing it right now.

994

He loves it for quick weight loss.

995

He's 22, so works really well for him.

996

But I'm with you.

997

There's a ton of people I know that

have done it and it works beautifully

998

Maxine: supposed to be great for, the

999

Millie: It's great for your digestion

Maxine: the first person I heard it

from was an old friend of mine who had

breast cancer, unfortunately she did not

survive her breast cancer, but she she

fought it for a long time and she did

a lot of research and one of the things

that she learned was about fasting and

how it's so good for your cells and it's

a good cancer preventative, you know,

Millie: No.

I've heard

Maxine: really good for you.

Millie: I just can't fucking do it.

I can, I'm really trying to

do consistently the 12 hour

thing, but it's not consistent.

It happens maybe 30,

40 percent of the time,

Maxine: Okay, but I still feel

like that would do something

Millie: Yeah, but most of these

motherfuckers are doing it

for like 14 hours, 16 hours.

No.

I, 11, 12 is my absolute max.

I cannot do it longer than that.

Cause I'm too

Maxine: like anything I think it

works for some people it doesn't

work for other people and you

know What works for you is great

Millie: Yeah.

Maxine: But okay saltwater

Millie: Saltwater.

So, you're hella dehydrated when you

wake up, like major, major, major.

And so there's all of this research

and studies and stuff that, salt in

the morning is really, really good

for hydrating your body quickly,

getting those electrolytes, um,

cause you know, Himalayan salt has

like magnesium and potassium and,

other shit, other electrolytes in it.

and so I have, I've done that for a

while now, I drink it in the morning,

Maxine: feel like are

the effects from that?

Millie: I, I'm hydrated really quickly.

I will say my migraines are so

much less than they used to be.

And that was the reason why I started

drinking it initially was because

I had read that most of the time.

salt will fix headaches.

Like if you, if you are somebody that has

headaches a lot, which I am, and so that's

why I started it initially, but then I

was reading about how it's really good

to have it first thing in the morning.

And honestly, I don't have

a lot of headaches anymore.

I really

Maxine: do you just, it's just salt water?

Do you put like apple

cider vinegar or do you

Millie: I'll do that separately because

I like for that to just be on its own.

I put lemon with it.

Maxine: Okay.

Cause

it seems like it'd be hard to get

salt water, straight salt water

Millie: fucking gross, I

buy this flavored stuff.

It's another brand.

Boy we're plugging everybody today.

Redmond's has a brand, has a salt

mix called Relight that tastes

decent and I throw that in with

water and lemon and it's fruity.

Okay, so the things, the three things I

still want to talk about, just because

I want to know what you think and I

want to know what our listener thinks,

even though she can't tell us he,

Maxine: Well, no, she can

because we have an email address,

reinventing this shit show at gmail.

com.

Please or our Facebook

reinventing this shit show.

We've got Instagram.

We've got all, all the socials were

not, I, we have a, an ex account,

but I've never done one thing with it

Millie: because it's

Maxine: I don't want to

have anything to do with it.

It's not my thing

Millie: Okay.

So.

Maxine: So please let us know.

Millie: SANA I want to talk about and I

want to talk about cold plunge because

these are two things that I'm thinking

about getting aboard those trains,

especially the SANA train, because I'm

reading so many benefits about, and

this might interest you too, something

about your hormones, the heat, like,

helps boost what you've lost, basically.

There's shit that you lose when you're

in your 40s and I'm, obviously I sound

like I know what I'm talking about.

Shit that you lose.

Maxine: Shit that you lose, what kind of

Millie: That the sauna regenerates.

Maxine: Okay.

At the gym that I, I go to, I pay

an extra 5 a month for the little

VIP area, um, which sometimes is

the only reason I go to the gym.

So it was totally worth

the extra 5 massage chairs.

There's a red light therapy, there's

tanning, which, I mean, what year is it?

Come

Millie: know.

Maxine: Um, and there is like

an infrared sauna and it's

got all these benefits listed.

I've never gone in it because.

Saunas sound uncomfortable, I don't

Millie: Well, I love that heat, especially

when it's cold and my joints hurt.

Yes.

Give me

Maxine: god, how old are we?

Millie: we're a hundred.

But the sauna is supposed to help

with arthritis like hella, like big

Maxine: okay.

Millie: So I'm, there's a place.

It's near where I live that's

just like a sauna place and you

pay for sessions or whatever.

I'm thinking about doing it, just to

kind of see the, the cold plunge thing is

supposed to help with all that shit too.

I can't do it,

Maxine: I'm terrified.

Millie: health with Holland

gal suggests doing an ice bath

for your face in the mornings.

She says that you will get

similar benefits and it

lowers cortisol and all this

Maxine: Well, I will tell you that one

way to stimulate your vagus nerve is ice

water on your chest or

Millie: you're.

supposed to do that.

so to

Maxine: I can see how it would now,

Adrian, I'm talking to you right now.

I don't know if she still listens.

I know she listened at least once

because all the people, you know,

they're nice and they listen once.

Maybe she's still listening.

Adrienne, if you are listening,

please email me at reinventing

this shit show at gmail.

com and tell me all

about your cold plunge.

She, I see her on Facebook all the time.

She goes out, she lives

up in Pennsylvania.

she and her friends go out into

the woods into oh God, like ice

cold lakes during the winter and

and she's always in an ice bath.

I don't know.

I don't know

Millie: Yeah,

Maxine: how she has time to work.

She's always in an ice

Millie: ice bath.

Well, my trainer, Kylie, she,

I think she has, she has one at

home, or she fills it with ice at

Maxine: friend Mel Robbins has one.

I saw that on

Millie: I know, but Mel

Robbins has like the fancy one.

Kylie has like a baby pool or something.

I don't know what it is, but,

um, I, I just, I don't know.

I don't, I'm worried I'm gonna

have a fucking heart attack

if I get in that cold water.

I'm like actually worried about

Maxine: Yeah.

Millie: So I think I'm just gonna, these

Maxine: I like the one on the face though.

I can handle

Millie: That I think I can do since we've

been talking, you know, in the, in the

spirit of adding new things for the year,

both of those things I'm going to try.

Maxine: Okay.

Salt water in the morning.

Yeah.

Millie: Yeah, you get a lot.

Maxine: Ice.

Ice packs on my face.

Millie: I want, I'm going to do the, put

my face in the cold water in the morning

Maxine: Okay, sauna.

Millie: to try this on a

Maxine: Maybe if when my husband gets

up to get my older daughter ready

for school at the crack of dawn.

Millie: You don't even

know because you're asleep.

Maxine: Maybe if he came in and just

poured ice water on my face, that would

Millie: Do you know how mad

Maxine: He would not be alive anymore.

Millie: Well, both of those chicks that

I follow on Insta are big sauna folks.

Big ice bath shit folks, too.

Like, this is the new

Maxine: to be really good for

Millie: I know, but

Maxine: I believe it.

I believe it, but I

Millie: Dude, whatever we

can do in this season of

Maxine: Would you please

never say season again?

Millie: To, to ease our suffering,

to make things a little bit more,

Maxine: we have to freeze our

asses off and then get in a

sauna and sweat our asses off.

Millie: I don't know.

I, I really legit, like starting next

week, I'm going to put my fucking

face in ice water in the mornings.

I'm going to do

it.

In

Maxine: a new

Millie: to my journaling,

Maxine: Oh, right.

Of the journal?

Yes.

Oh, let's circle back

to that for two seconds.

Maxine brought a gratitude journal and

Millie: I fucking did, I'm on

day three, it's so hilarious,

Maxine: I love it.

Millie: but I, I do like it because it

has prompts and it takes 30 seconds.

So we'll see.

Maxine: Yeah.

And she bought me one, so I will have to

report to

Millie: Yeah, well, we'll see.

Let's see how long, if we

can even get through January,

it will be fucking amazing.

Maxine: I don't

Millie: But I am kind

of excited about them.

Maxine: I, I'm too.

Okay, well,

Millie: me, new year, new you, right?

Maxine: New Year, New

Millie: I think that's all

I wanted to talk about.

Maxine: Okay, so to recap, I

need to move every day, get up in

the morning early and exercise,

Millie: I would.

Get it out of the

Maxine: face in ice

Millie: Yeah.

Yeah, bitch.

Maxine: go to the sauna, drink

salt water in the morning,

Millie: Put some lemon in there too.

Good for the tum.

Maxine: It's a lot